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The Challenges of Turning 40 – Rob Griffin – Episode 2 Transcript

Rob Griffin is an ex Las Vegas undercover detective that has been in excellent shape most of his life. After he turned 40, he discovered that staying in shape was a bigger challenge than he thought. In this episode we talk about his journey and challenges.

W Tucker:
All right, folks, this is W. Tucker, and this is Healthy and Fit After 40, and our motto is live longer better. Today I’ve got a very good guest who is an expert at podcasts, and also has a story all unto himself about healthy and fit after 40, so I will introduce Rob Griffin, who has a very interesting story. Say hello, Rob.

Rob Griffin:
I do, Tucker. How are you doing, bud?

W Tucker:
I’m doing very good, very good.

Rob Griffin:
Very honored to be on your show. Thank you for having me.

W Tucker:
Thank you. He is sort of a mentor of mine, so that’s an interesting story all unto itself.

Rob Griffin:
Sure.

W Tucker:
So, we’re going to talk about healthy and fit after 40, and Rob is in his 40s, and we’re going to talk about the challenges after 40 and what happens and how your life can make it difficult to stay healthy and fit after 40. So, tell us a little bit about where you started.

Rob Griffin:
Well, I can tell you, just being in my… I’m 49 now, and I remember when I was a busy young man I never had to worry about my weight. I never had to be concerned, because I had a crazy fast metabolism. I could eat a whole pizza and it wouldn’t affect me, that kind of thing. I noticed, even in my 30s, I was still pretty darn lucky. I never gained weight, it was never an issue, and this is back… I used to be an undercover police detective in a little town called Las Vegas, Nevada.

W Tucker:
Wow.

Rob Griffin:
Yes, I started with the Henderson Police Department as a patrol officer back in 2003. I did patrol for three and a half years, and then I made detective, and then, in ’08, my sergeant asked me to go undercover, which I decided to do, and I did that for almost six years.

W Tucker:
So, along the way, are policemen always trying to stay fit, or they do exercise? Do they get to the gym? How do you keep in shape?

Rob Griffin:
Well, that’s a good question. It’s funny you say that, because a lot do, but a lot don’t.

W Tucker:
A lot don’t?

Rob Griffin:
So, you have to pass this physical agility test in order to get hired to be a police officer, and they encourage you to work out, but it’s not something where you’re ever tested on it again.

W Tucker:
Oh wow.

Rob Griffin:
That’s why you see some of these officers that are extremely overweight and they let themselves go.

W Tucker:
You do see that.

Rob Griffin:
You see that a lot, but it really is encouraged. If you go to most police departments in the United States, they have gyms built right into the police stations. The one that I worked at, we had a full gym. They had these… What was it called? Some kind of fitness outside of the location where they would make us go outside and workout

W Tucker:
Camp sort of thing?

Rob Griffin:
Yeah, like a bootcamp, exactly, and they would do bootcamps after hours.

W Tucker:
Oh wow.

Rob Griffin:
A crossfit, that’s what it’s called.

W Tucker:
Crossfit, yeah, yeah, right, right.

Rob Griffin:
It’s called crossfit. So, we were doing that kind of stuff. I was working out probably… Because it was so easy. I’d go to the locker room, I’d change. Before I’d go home, I could knock out a good little half-hour workout, then I could go home and relax. Sometimes, honestly, it’s really good for your health mentally, because you see a lot of bad and sad at police work. So, I’d go in the gym and sweat it out and try to get the stress off of me.

W Tucker:
Right, absolutely.

Rob Griffin:
Because you see dead people and you’re dealing with that stuff on a regular basis.

W Tucker:
So, the gym is a good way to release that kind of anxiety and whatever happens during the day?

Rob Griffin:
I think physical activity is a good stress reliever, and I think even now that I’m not a police officer… Because I’ve kind of revamped my life the last couple of years, and now, to me, the gym gives me stress release, which also has the benefits of keeping you healthy as well.

W Tucker:
Absolutely, absolutely. So, tell us a little bit about the next sort of… That was in your 30s? You were doing that in your 30s?

Rob Griffin:
Yeah, so my mid-30s, and I’m working my way through, and then I became a detective, and the detective is a little rough on you because of the schedule you keep and the way you have to run constantly because you’re on call 24 hours a day. When you’re a detective, you get that little department cell phone, and if it rings… I’d get calls at four o’clock in the morning, “Hey, Joe Joe wants to sell you a handgun,” and I’m like… I have to get out of bed, get dressed, get in my undercover car, drive to some trailer park in the middle of nowhere, buy a gun from some drug addict and hope and pray you don’t get shot or killed while you’re out there. Done that a few times.

W Tucker:
So, that must have had some physical demands on you, just to be that person, right?

Rob Griffin:
It was not easy. In fact, many of my nights I was in a bar because of my job, and so I was drinking more because-

W Tucker:
Just because you had to?

Rob Griffin:
I had to. I was one of the few officers that could actually drink while on duty, because it was part of the persona that I had to play, and so we would go… It was not uncommon to be in a bar or having beer at work.

W Tucker:
At work, right. Quote unquote.

Rob Griffin:
Yeah, quote unquote, and we’re hanging out with these criminals. That also is not good for your body, but that’s one of the reasons why, also, we would work out on a regular basis too, because you just never know. You might be in a fight that night, or you could get attacked, and you wouldn’t want to be physically compromised. That’s why when I see these officers that let themselves go-

W Tucker:
Go, right.

Rob Griffin:
… they’re a liability not just to themselves, but to me, because if I get in a fight and I need backup and you can’t even run up the stairs to help me, that’s a problem

W Tucker:
Very much. Very much so.

Rob Griffin:
That’s why a lot of… Most officers take good care of themselves. There are a few, and typically, they tend to be the old-timers and they’ve been on for a long time and they just kinda like, “Screw it,” you know?

W Tucker:
Right.

Rob Griffin:
But most of them are not like that. If you go to a lot of the police departments, the ones that take their job serious, they stay in pretty good shape on purpose, because foot pursuits, chasing and you just never know. Or, God forbid, you get in a fight for your life, you want to be able to protect yourself.

W Tucker:
Sure. Got to be in shape, right?

Rob Griffin:
Right.

W Tucker:
So, we’re going to take a little break, but what I want to say is at the very end of this podcast, you need to stay tuned because we’re going to have a very special gift for somebody who emails us in, and we’ll let you know about that in just a minute. Okay, folks, we will pause and be back in just a minute. This is W. Tucker with Healthy and Fit After 40. Thanks. All right, folks, welcome back. This is W. Tucker with Healthy and Fit After 40, and our guest today is Rob Griffin, who previously was an undercover cop in Vegas, and now has a very successful podcast and radio show business and an energy business. So, we’re going to talk a little bit more about his experience with being healthy and fit when over 40, and he’s actually 49. Tell us a little bit more about… As you were getting older in the detective business, were there any challenges in that?

Rob Griffin:
Oh man, I’m going to tell you, I remember being a rookie cop and being able to chase people easily.

W Tucker:
Right. You mean in your 20s?

Rob Griffin:
No, I was not a cop in my… I was a cop in my 30s.

W Tucker:
30s, okay.

Rob Griffin:
I got hired in my early 30s. So, I remember we were sitting on a surveillance one day. I’m in a Walmart parking lot and we’re doing a big dope buy, and I’m in my undercover car waiting for the deal to go down.

W Tucker:
What’s your undercover car?

Rob Griffin:
I had an old, black Mustang GT, and so I’m hiding in my car. I’m wearing clothes kind of like this: jeans, loafers, just normal clothes.

W Tucker:
You have kind of a beard at that point?

Rob Griffin:
Oh yeah, I had a beard, and yeah, the listeners will be able to see the photo that I share with you. That’s what I used to look like. We told all the patrol officers, “Stay out of the parking lot,” because we wouldn’t want them to spook our guy, because if they drive through in a marked unit, it’s gonna blow the deal. I shouldn’t say it never fails, but it failed this day. Some rookie didn’t listen, didn’t get the memo, and right in the middle of our deal, he comes pulling in through the Walmart parking lot in his marked vehicle.

W Tucker:
Oh my God.

Rob Griffin:
Our suspect sees the marked car and thinks oh crap, this is a bust, and that wasn’t a bust. He just takes off running with our buy money, and he’s cutting across the parking lot, and when he comes, he runs right past my vehicle. I’m like, “Oh, snap.” So, I get out of my car, and I’m in loafers like this, and I start chasing this guy, and behind me I hear this word, [German 00:09:56], which is a German word. What that means to a police officer… That means there was a canine guy behind me. They speak to the police dogs in German. [German 00:10:07] means get them, get them. So, I know that Ranger, who is the canine officer that was coming behind me, was coming. Have you ever seen a police dog tackle someone?

W Tucker:
Sure.

Rob Griffin:
I mean, it’s no… Those things are powerful. But I’m also cognizant of the fact that I’m wearing jeans and a t-shirt, and he may not know who’s the bad guy, and I can hear the dog coming behind me. I’m all, “Please, Ranger, don’t bite me. Please, Ranger, don’t bite me.” I’m chasing this dude, and I remember tweaking my knee when I got out of the car. My old age was catching up to me. Then, luckily, Ranger runs right past me because he knew my scent, thank God, and then he goes and just tears this guy up. He bit him right on his buttocks and it was instant blood. I mean, it was… He was bleeding all down his leg, but he took this guy down. But I also blew my knee out because I was not used to running. So, when you talk about being over 40, that’s a young man’s game, is chasing these guys through parking lots and jumping walls.

W Tucker:
Absolutely. You weren’t even 40 then, or…

Rob Griffin:
I was then, because I-

W Tucker:
You were?

Rob Griffin:
… was already working undercover, but I’m just saying… So, even though I was working out on a regular basis, I wasn’t prepared for sprinting, so I think you have to learn how to basically take time for yourself and keep your… Especially if you’re gonna be in that job, you need to be prepared at any moment to be on a run.

W Tucker:
But you were still in good shape at that point-

Rob Griffin:
I was.

W Tucker:
… because I’ve seen pictures of you, and you were in great shape.

Rob Griffin:
Yeah, well, here’s the thing. Being buff and being in shape are two different things.

W Tucker:
Two different things, right, right.

Rob Griffin:
Because you could be great, musclebound, but if you don’t have cardio… Watching UFC, you see these big, musclebound guys getting knocked out by these guys that have bellies and stuff because it’s not about just muscle, it’s about cardio and being overall fit, not just strong.

W Tucker:
Exactly.

Rob Griffin:
Big difference between those two.

W Tucker:
Big difference. That’s a good point to make. Okay, we’re going to take a break, and we will be back in a minute. This is W. Tucker with Healthy and Fit After 40. All right, folks, we are back. This is W. Tucker with Healthy and Fit After 40, and I’ve got Rob Griffin, a friend and an ex-cop from Vegas. We’ve been talking about the challenges of being an undercover cop, and we’ve also talked about as you get older, the challenges of that. Rob, after you stopped being a detective, what did you do and how did the challenges of being over 40 attack you then?

Rob Griffin:
It was kind of a unique thing, because I was working out every week because I was in the gym where the station was, and so when I decided to quit… So, I started a part-time business, so for any of you out there curious about how I was able to do this, I started a part-time company about nine years ago, and within three years I built it to a six-figure income, part-time, working around my job.

W Tucker:
Wow. That’s impressive.

Rob Griffin:
That got me to a position where I was able to retire early. I didn’t do a full 25 like most police officers do. I did 12 years-

W Tucker:
Do you think you would have stayed if you hadn’t had the business to do that?

Rob Griffin:
Certainly, yes, I probably would have. Being a police officer is a great career as long as you don’t get shot or killed.

W Tucker:
Shot. You were in the kind of business that you could easily have, yeah.

Rob Griffin:
In fact, that was one of the reasons why I got out. My side hustle was doing very well, but then I had… One of my friends committed suicide, and I had two of my buddies that got murdered while they were eating lunch.

W Tucker:
Oh my gosh, wow.

Rob Griffin:
A lot of people, though, they don’t realize cops have a very high suicide rate, so there’s a lot of bad that happens in the police world. So, when I decided to get out of it, I decided, you know what, I’m making enough money with my side hustle… If you’re interested in the side hustle, email Debbie and I can give you some details on that. But I was doing it as a part-time thing, and then I got out, but when I got out, I also got lazy, because now I was not risking my life every day. So, I got comfortable and I started putting on weight, and I didn’t-

W Tucker:
So, you didn’t have to be in the same kind of physical shape to do what you were doing?

Rob Griffin:
Exactly, right. I don’t have to be in a fight every night, maybe, and so you tend to let yourself go a little bit. I stopped working out and I started instantly putting… Especially when you get over 40, your metabolism slows down.

W Tucker:
Right, and you start to put on weight, and…

Rob Griffin:
I’m kind of what my friend would call me, skinny fat, because I’m skinny in most parts of my body, but I had this belly, the Griffin Gut my dad had, and I’m like, I don’t want to be like my dad. Now I’m looking in the mirror, I’m like oh my crap, I look like my dad, because your metabolism slows down, and then sometimes life throws you curve balls. A little over two, two and a half years ago, I had a little mole on my arm and it was just… It had been there forever, but it turned black, and then it got hard to the touch. It almost felt like I had a pebble that I glued on my arm. It was like a little ball. I was like, this can’t be good. I’ve got to go get this checked. Honestly, W, I’m glad it was where I could see it. What if it had been on my back or on… Who knows, right?

W Tucker:
Right.

Rob Griffin:
So, I went, and sure enough, we got the test results. It was melanoma cancer, the kind that can kill you. So, I was a little freaked out by that.

W Tucker:
Absolutely.

Rob Griffin:
I went in there for my test on a Tuesday, and then they called me on the next Tuesday and said, “You’re having surgery in a couple days, because the kind of cancer that it is, it’s aggressive, and if we don’t get rid of it quick… ” So, I had to have surgery and the whole fricking nightmare, and they cut a big chunk out of my arm, and then they cut out your lymph nodes, which are under your armpit.

W Tucker:
Just to make sure it doesn’t go there?

Rob Griffin:
Talk about amazing technology. They inject a radioactive material into where the cancer was, and then they use a little miniature Geiger counter, and they can tell the exact lymph node. They track it with a little, little thing. They can find the right one and they cut it out and they can tell if the cancer has spread.

W Tucker:
Has spread. Wow.

Rob Griffin:
So, I was very fortunate it had not spread. So, basically, it was local and they got rid of it, and I’ve been cancer-free now for a little over two and a half years.

W Tucker:
Wow. Well, thank goodness.

Rob Griffin:
What a blessing. Thank God for that.

W Tucker:
I’ve seen the scar and it’s quite a scar for just a little bitty pebble, so it’s amazing what you went through for that.

Rob Griffin:
Oh man, they took… Because they have to go deep, so they took a… Imagine getting an ice cream scooper and taking a big chunk out of your forearm. That’s what they did to mine.

W Tucker:
Just to make sure everything was taken care of?

Rob Griffin:
Yeah, they don’t want to mess around. So, they went in there and they go deep, and people don’t know… Melanoma, it’s pretty gnarly, and if you don’t catch it… Bob Marley was killed by melanoma. He had it on his toe. For men like me and you, men over 40, more often than not, it shows up on your feet. So, you better check your feet and check… If you don’t go to a dermatologist, you should. Go get checked out at least once a year.

W Tucker:
Yeah. So, this was kind of a wake-up call for you?

Rob Griffin:
Man, you ain’t kidding. I tell people it was a gift, because what it did is it made me stop taking my days for granted, and it made me stop just assuming that I was going to live forever, because most of us just think we’re going to live forever.

W Tucker:
We do.

Rob Griffin:
You’re not. Life’s risky. Jim Rohn says life’s risky, you’re not getting out alive. Anyway, so long story short, it was kind of a gift for me because it made me really start to appreciate life and appreciate my time here on earth with the ones that I love, and that’s why I tell people all the time, “Stop pretending like you have a thousand years to live, because you don’t. If you love someone, tell them, because you just never know when some bad stuff could come your way.”

W Tucker:
That’s great advice. Great, great, great advice. Okay, so we will be back. We’re going to talk a little bit more with Rob, and then we’re going to have a special giveaway. All right, we are back. It is W. Tucker with Healthy and Fit After 40, and we’ve got Rob Griffin, our guest, who was an undercover cop in Las Vegas and Henderson, Nevada. He’s talked all about the challenges of being over 40, and now he’s going to finish a little bit and talk about what his goals are and what he’s doing now.

Rob Griffin:
Yeah, so for me, having that little health scare, it was a real eye-opener for me, and then I also realized… I started taking a look at my body. We want to be proud when we look in the mirror, and I just wasn’t. I’d got to the heaviest I’ve ever been, and I’m not a super heavy person.

W Tucker:
No, you’re not.

Rob Griffin:
But for me, it was like… That picture I sent you, I was probably 175 pounds, but I was yoked up back then.

W Tucker:
Right, right. You look great.

Rob Griffin:
So, now I look in the mirror, I’m 195 pounds, and I’m not out of shape. I’ve got this belly like my dad had, and I’m like, I’m going to do something about… I’m going to fix it. So, anyway, I decided I wanted to be fabulous at 50.

W Tucker:
That’s great. You should start your own show, Fabulous at 50.

Rob Griffin:
So, I said, “I’m going to start… ” Because being healthy and being in shape doesn’t happen by accident. You have to be on purpose about what you do. So, what I did… No major changes, no fad diets. I decided I’m just going to limit my portions, I’m going to lower my portions when I eat. I’m going to also not eat late at night, and then I’m going to get back in the gym, and since my days are so crazy busy, I had to figure out a way to do that. So, my wife and I just said, “You know what? Screw it. We’re going to wake up early.” So, now we try to get to bed… I’m still kind of a night owl, so I don’t sleep as much as I probably should, but I get up at 5:30 in the morning.

W Tucker:
Wow. That’s pretty early.

Rob Griffin:
Yeah, I get up, I brush my teeth, restroom, change clothes, and then boom, we’re in the gym by 6:00, and then we go there and I get… I love basketball, so I’ll go lift weights a little bit, and then I go play basketball, and since it’s 6:00 a.m.-

W Tucker:
Great cardio.

Rob Griffin:
… I got the whole court to myself. There’s nobody there. I shoot round, I’m running, I make sure I break a good sweat. We went to the gym the other day when it was 21 degrees outside, and I’m just like, you know what, we’re going anyway because I can’t… I don’t want to have-

W Tucker:
You’re dedicated to doing this.

Rob Griffin:
Right. By June, I got to be… I got to be fabulous by June, because that’s when my birthday-

W Tucker:
That’s your birthday?

Rob Griffin:
Yeah.

W Tucker:
Okay.

Rob Griffin:
So, I figure I’m going to go pay that price and do whatever it takes so that I can be ready at that time. So, we’ve been doing that almost every day of the week. I could not go today because of my kids’ stuff, but most of the time we’re there every single week.

W Tucker:
Wow, that’s great.

Rob Griffin:
So, I go there and I get my little workout going, and then… Anyway, so I’m on my way.

W Tucker:
Great. Great, great, great. So, tell us a little bit about your podcast. You have two that you do?

Rob Griffin:
Yes, I do. I have one of them that is the originator. I was a guest on someone’s show, kind of like this. Yeah, just like this, about two years ago. So, I’m a guest on this guy’s show, and I was there and I was just listening, because they had heard about how I built my side business to a six-figure income and I’d retired from police work, so they wanted to interview me on this show about-

W Tucker:
Right, because it was fascinating. Absolutely.

Rob Griffin:
Yeah. I’m not trying to brag or boast, but last year my wife and I got featured in Success magazine.

W Tucker:
Wow, I didn’t know that.

Rob Griffin:
Because of our side hustle, right?

W Tucker:
Right.

Rob Griffin:
So, I was a guest on this show, and the guy’s like… As I’m leaving, he goes, “Man, you need to have your own show,” and I’m like, “Well, what would I talk about?” He goes, “Well, you were an undercover cop in Las Vegas. You kidding me? There’s amazing stuff that you’ve probably done.” I said, “Well, yeah, but…” and he goes, “Why are you writing a book?” I said, “Yeah, I’m going to write a book, but I’m going to call it Bulletproof Mindset.” He goes, “That’s perfect.” He goes, “You should make that your show.” So, the show, Bulletproof Mindset by Rob Griffin, was born, and I started doing that show about a year and a half ago. I did it kind of solo for a while, and then, about nine months ago, I met Dale Oaks, who’s now my co-host and I brought him on as a co-host.

Rob Griffin:
The show is just booming with popularity. They can find it very easy. Just go to robanddaleshow.com. Then I started a pet project about, I don’t know, six months ago, and we call it Drinking 4 Dummies, like Drinking, the number four, dummies.com.

W Tucker:
That’s great.

Rob Griffin:
It’s an informative show about how to enjoy alcoholic beverages responsibly, how they’re made, proper food pairings, and stuff like that. In fact, last night, we did the salt and pepper wine episode from six o’clock til like 7:30 last night, and we get a ton of hits already on the website for that one as well.

W Tucker:
That’s new, but still getting to be very popular?

Rob Griffin:
It’s growing very fast.

W Tucker:
Right, right. Lots of folks are interested in that. Lots of folks.

Rob Griffin:
The other show is about entrepreneurship and becoming a better human being, and the other one-

W Tucker:
Very serious.

Rob Griffin:
The other one is serious business. The other one’s about just drinking-

W Tucker:
Drinking.

Rob Griffin:
… and having a good time.

W Tucker:
And being responsible.

Rob Griffin:
Right. So, that show has got great popularity. Anyway, we were talking about we’re going to do a little surprise for your guests.

W Tucker:
Yes.

Rob Griffin:
So, here’s the contest. If you want to contact W on his show, then you send him an email and describe yourself, and I will bring you as a guest and you can choose. If you’re an entrepreneur and you want to be featured on the Bulletproof Mindset entrepreneurial show, then we’re going to sort through the emails, we’re going to find the best, more entertaining person. We’re going to bring you as a guest on our show. Or, if you just want to come be a dummy and come join us for Drinking 4 Dummies, then we can obviously have you there. Just give me an idea of what that’s like. We tasted four different wines last night, paired it with some food. It was a fabulous evening.

W Tucker:
It was great. So, it’s up to my listeners. You have a choice. You can send in an email if you want to be on the Drinking 4 Dummies, or if you’re an entrepreneur and want to be on bullets at…

Rob Griffin:
Bulletproof Mindset.

W Tucker:
Bulletproof Mindset, here’s my email. My email is wtucker@healthyandfitafter40, and it’s 4-0, dot com. So, it’s wtucker@healthyandfitafter 4-0 dot com. So, email me and we will look at the applicants and see who would be best on one of the shows. I thank you very much, Rob. It’s been great, it’s been great fun. So, thank you. This is W. Tucker at Healthy and Fit After 40, and we will see you next week. Thanks.

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